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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m pretty sure I shouldn&#8217;t send money to &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Todd Coontz by Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 21:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Debbie, this is gonna sound harsh, but I don&#039;t mean it to. 

Sounds like you are only praying to God to get some temporary relief from some kind of financial or physical burden. It sounds like you are very religious. Helping others despite your own situation is a good thing. Praying is a good thing. 

But here is the problem - judging from what you have written, you aren&#039;t trusting God. This is not a &quot;your faith is not big enough&quot; situation. I am not saying you don&#039;t have money because you need more faith. The issue is much bigger than that. 

The issue is sin. You have it. Everyone does. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. And because of this sin, you can&#039;t communicate with God, and you are out of God&#039;s will. The end result of this rebellion (whether it is open rebellion, or subtle self righteousness and confidence in your own ability), is hell. 

But, God, in His great mercy, sent a redeemer. A sinless Saviour who took your sin upon Himself, and bore it to death. IN other words, JEsus Christ took the punishment due to you upon Himself. He died in your place. All He asks is that you believe that Jesus died to save you from hell, from your sins and from yourself. If you believe the gospel (1 Cor 15:1-4), then Jesus has saved you. 

And then, you can ask God for help with finances. But if the finances don&#039;t arrive, you can rest assured that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them that are called according to His purpose (Romans 8:28). You can rest assured that no matter what circumstance you are in, God is good, and is working things out according to His will.

And you will also be given spiritual eyes to see through the lies that these televangelists preach. They are wolves in sheeps clothing. 

Praying for you debbie. Please ask any questions you might have</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Debbie, this is gonna sound harsh, but I don&#8217;t mean it to. </p>
<p>Sounds like you are only praying to God to get some temporary relief from some kind of financial or physical burden. It sounds like you are very religious. Helping others despite your own situation is a good thing. Praying is a good thing. </p>
<p>But here is the problem &#8211; judging from what you have written, you aren&#8217;t trusting God. This is not a &#8220;your faith is not big enough&#8221; situation. I am not saying you don&#8217;t have money because you need more faith. The issue is much bigger than that. </p>
<p>The issue is sin. You have it. Everyone does. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. And because of this sin, you can&#8217;t communicate with God, and you are out of God&#8217;s will. The end result of this rebellion (whether it is open rebellion, or subtle self righteousness and confidence in your own ability), is hell. </p>
<p>But, God, in His great mercy, sent a redeemer. A sinless Saviour who took your sin upon Himself, and bore it to death. IN other words, JEsus Christ took the punishment due to you upon Himself. He died in your place. All He asks is that you believe that Jesus died to save you from hell, from your sins and from yourself. If you believe the gospel (1 Cor 15:1-4), then Jesus has saved you. </p>
<p>And then, you can ask God for help with finances. But if the finances don&#8217;t arrive, you can rest assured that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them that are called according to His purpose (Romans 8:28). You can rest assured that no matter what circumstance you are in, God is good, and is working things out according to His will.</p>
<p>And you will also be given spiritual eyes to see through the lies that these televangelists preach. They are wolves in sheeps clothing. </p>
<p>Praying for you debbie. Please ask any questions you might have</p>
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		<title>Comment on I&#8217;m pretty sure I shouldn&#8217;t send money to &#8220;Dr.&#8221; Todd Coontz by Debbie S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I somewhat agree i have been tithing for the last ten years and have not seen or experienced what they call miracle seed come back to me.I am now in the midst of loosing my vehicle because i cant seem to get ahead with the payment,due to not having full time work.I pray for some change in my fincances, and circumstance.I mean i pray, i talk to god and he know&#039;s my circumstances and i thank him for the issues im facing right now.And, i get on my knees, and pray.I minister to other people even when i am being slammed and kicked in the face by my husband and i dont seem to have a break through. I even tried fasting for 12 hours like the christians and muslims  and nothing has prevailed in my life.If any one should do is tithe your money to those in need who have it to give.I believe those people that want to give their money so others gain more of it is fine but dont forget people like me who is really struggling and trying to make an honest living.I really do need someone&#039;s help now.What is wrong with asking.Thank You Debbie L Silva Jacksonville,NC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I somewhat agree i have been tithing for the last ten years and have not seen or experienced what they call miracle seed come back to me.I am now in the midst of loosing my vehicle because i cant seem to get ahead with the payment,due to not having full time work.I pray for some change in my fincances, and circumstance.I mean i pray, i talk to god and he know&#8217;s my circumstances and i thank him for the issues im facing right now.And, i get on my knees, and pray.I minister to other people even when i am being slammed and kicked in the face by my husband and i dont seem to have a break through. I even tried fasting for 12 hours like the christians and muslims  and nothing has prevailed in my life.If any one should do is tithe your money to those in need who have it to give.I believe those people that want to give their money so others gain more of it is fine but dont forget people like me who is really struggling and trying to make an honest living.I really do need someone&#8217;s help now.What is wrong with asking.Thank You Debbie L Silva Jacksonville,NC</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshua, 

Are you a Amway distributor? Interesting blog. I live in So.Cal and not all money preachers( probably a bad title) are bad guys. I personally know some great Kingdom people that are prosperity preachers that do not stuff their pockets.
I look forward to reading more.
Be blessed, 
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshua, </p>
<p>Are you a Amway distributor? Interesting blog. I live in So.Cal and not all money preachers( probably a bad title) are bad guys. I personally know some great Kingdom people that are prosperity preachers that do not stuff their pockets.<br />
I look forward to reading more.<br />
Be blessed,<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another preacher teaching works salvation by Luke KJBONLY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke KJBONLY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for murder - J. Frank Norris killed a man, after he was saved. He claimed it was in self defense, but he was pretty trigger happy from what I hear. To understand what kind of man he was - he also preached a sermon while holding a dead man&#039;s brains in a broken beer bottle. He apparently scooped the brains up from a car crash that involved alcohol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for murder &#8211; J. Frank Norris killed a man, after he was saved. He claimed it was in self defense, but he was pretty trigger happy from what I hear. To understand what kind of man he was &#8211; he also preached a sermon while holding a dead man&#8217;s brains in a broken beer bottle. He apparently scooped the brains up from a car crash that involved alcohol.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another preacher teaching works salvation by Luke KJBONLY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke KJBONLY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the way that Ken kind of retracts his statement after you said about coveting, lusting and being lazy at work. He gives an exception to his sinless rule of life for a Christian by adding &quot;oh, I don&#039;t believe in sinless perfection&quot;, which basically translates to &quot;I know I am not sinless, but I am definitely better than you because I talk about how a Christian shouldn&#039;t lie and steal and rape and kill millions of jews, but I am okay, because my sins are only in my thoughts, and you will never see them&quot;. 


God does buddy. 

WORKS WORKS WORKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the way that Ken kind of retracts his statement after you said about coveting, lusting and being lazy at work. He gives an exception to his sinless rule of life for a Christian by adding &#8220;oh, I don&#8217;t believe in sinless perfection&#8221;, which basically translates to &#8220;I know I am not sinless, but I am definitely better than you because I talk about how a Christian shouldn&#8217;t lie and steal and rape and kill millions of jews, but I am okay, because my sins are only in my thoughts, and you will never see them&#8221;. </p>
<p>God does buddy. </p>
<p>WORKS WORKS WORKS.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another preacher teaching works salvation by jearwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>jearwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is true for a couple of reasons.  First, most people who understand the plan of salvation and believe on Christ will want to serve Him.  I know that I do, and obviously it&#039;s not because I&#039;m trying to earn my salvation by a good life.  I&#039;m grateful for what God has done for me and I want to serve Him because I love God.  Second, if a believer chooses to live a life of debauchery, God will chastise him even to the point of physical death.  While God doesn&#039;t just strike down every believer who commits a &quot;big&quot; sin, He will discipline everyone He calls a son, and if a believer chooses to live a wicked and ungodly life he does so at his peril.  Of course, when that person who has been born again dies a physical death, he&#039;ll be alive with Christ in heaven, not because of the good things he&#039;s done, but because his sins are covered by the blood of Christ.

Even so, I always vigorously oppose the notion that Christians should be identified by the good life they live compared to the world because so many people are eager to add works to the plan of salvation.  There are no works required for salvation, and salvation is not dependent on anyone&#039;s ability or even willingness to give up any sin in his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is true for a couple of reasons.  First, most people who understand the plan of salvation and believe on Christ will want to serve Him.  I know that I do, and obviously it&#8217;s not because I&#8217;m trying to earn my salvation by a good life.  I&#8217;m grateful for what God has done for me and I want to serve Him because I love God.  Second, if a believer chooses to live a life of debauchery, God will chastise him even to the point of physical death.  While God doesn&#8217;t just strike down every believer who commits a &#8220;big&#8221; sin, He will discipline everyone He calls a son, and if a believer chooses to live a wicked and ungodly life he does so at his peril.  Of course, when that person who has been born again dies a physical death, he&#8217;ll be alive with Christ in heaven, not because of the good things he&#8217;s done, but because his sins are covered by the blood of Christ.</p>
<p>Even so, I always vigorously oppose the notion that Christians should be identified by the good life they live compared to the world because so many people are eager to add works to the plan of salvation.  There are no works required for salvation, and salvation is not dependent on anyone&#8217;s ability or even willingness to give up any sin in his life.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another preacher teaching works salvation by Ministry Addict</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ministry Addict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ok, well so I, as an example, will rob, cheat, and murder for the rest of my life. But it’s okay because I have all faith in Christ. Is that kind of your point?
Reply&quot;

I&#039;m not disputing the points already made in response to this, but I personally think that if you really have &quot;all faith in Christ&quot; it is extremely unlikely that you will rob, cheat, and murder on a regular basis for the &quot;rest of your life&quot; (assuming the &quot;rest of your life&quot; is more than, say, a few more minutes) at the same rate you robbed, cheated, and murdered back when you had no faith in Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ok, well so I, as an example, will rob, cheat, and murder for the rest of my life. But it’s okay because I have all faith in Christ. Is that kind of your point?<br />
Reply&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not disputing the points already made in response to this, but I personally think that if you really have &#8220;all faith in Christ&#8221; it is extremely unlikely that you will rob, cheat, and murder on a regular basis for the &#8220;rest of your life&#8221; (assuming the &#8220;rest of your life&#8221; is more than, say, a few more minutes) at the same rate you robbed, cheated, and murdered back when you had no faith in Christ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another preacher teaching works salvation by jearwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>jearwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nowhere in the bible does it say we must make a choice between sin and salvation.  If we had to choose, we&#039;d all choose our sin because our flesh loves to sin and hates the things of God.  If our salvation was dependent on our choosing not to sin, no one would be saved.  

If you&#039;re not arguing sinless perfection, you&#039;re suggesting that salvation requires us to give up some of our sin, or at least the &quot;bad&quot; ones, but we&#039;re free to keep on doing the ones that aren&#039;t so bad.   But every time we sin, we are choosing to disobey God.

Going back to the passage I referenced in the original post.  What did Jesus tell the woman at the well?  &quot;If you know who I am and the gift that God offers, you&#039;d ask and I&#039;d give you Living Water.&quot;  Even though we discover later in the chapter that this woman was living a very sinful life, &lt;strong&gt;Jesus did not precondition God&#039;s gift on her willingness to give up any sin.&lt;/strong&gt;  This isn&#039;t to say that Jesus didn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;want&lt;/em&gt; her to give up this sin in her life, of course.  But if she had to give up something to receive the Living Water, would it still be a gift?  This is why boasting is excluded.  Romans 4:1-8 says:


&lt;blockquote&gt; 1What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3For what does the Scripture say? &quot;Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.&quot; 4Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, 6just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:
 7 &quot;Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,
   and whose sins are covered;
8blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

If we are saved, even in part, because of something &lt;em&gt;we&lt;/em&gt; do, we have earned something.  We could boast about what we have done.  But only when we understand that we play no part in our own salvation is boasting excluded and &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; the glory given to God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nowhere in the bible does it say we must make a choice between sin and salvation.  If we had to choose, we&#8217;d all choose our sin because our flesh loves to sin and hates the things of God.  If our salvation was dependent on our choosing not to sin, no one would be saved.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re not arguing sinless perfection, you&#8217;re suggesting that salvation requires us to give up some of our sin, or at least the &#8220;bad&#8221; ones, but we&#8217;re free to keep on doing the ones that aren&#8217;t so bad.   But every time we sin, we are choosing to disobey God.</p>
<p>Going back to the passage I referenced in the original post.  What did Jesus tell the woman at the well?  &#8220;If you know who I am and the gift that God offers, you&#8217;d ask and I&#8217;d give you Living Water.&#8221;  Even though we discover later in the chapter that this woman was living a very sinful life, <strong>Jesus did not precondition God&#8217;s gift on her willingness to give up any sin.</strong>  This isn&#8217;t to say that Jesus didn&#8217;t <em>want</em> her to give up this sin in her life, of course.  But if she had to give up something to receive the Living Water, would it still be a gift?  This is why boasting is excluded.  Romans 4:1-8 says:</p>
<blockquote><p> 1What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3For what does the Scripture say? &#8220;Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.&#8221; 4Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness, 6just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works:<br />
 7 &#8220;Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven,<br />
   and whose sins are covered;<br />
8blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>If we are saved, even in part, because of something <em>we</em> do, we have earned something.  We could boast about what we have done.  But only when we understand that we play no part in our own salvation is boasting excluded and <em>all</em> the glory given to God.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another preacher teaching works salvation by Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is a man who holds on to his sin truly believing on Christ? Can a man choose sin over his salavation? And no, I am not arguing for sinless perfectionism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is a man who holds on to his sin truly believing on Christ? Can a man choose sin over his salavation? And no, I am not arguing for sinless perfectionism.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another preacher teaching works salvation by jearwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>jearwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Depends what you mean by &quot;okay.&quot;  No, it&#039;s not okay with God if we disobey His commandments.  God will chastise His children;  the bible is full of examples:  Saul, David, and Job come to mind.  

But if by &quot;okay&quot; you mean that a born again believer who robs, cheats and murders will still be saved, then the answer is yes.  &lt;strong&gt;We are not saved by our own merit.&lt;/strong&gt;  I&#039;m not sure why this is so hard for people to understand.  People &lt;em&gt;constantly&lt;/em&gt; talk about the believer who lies, cheats and murders, but never about the believer who lusts, covets or is lazy at work.  Why?  Because deep down most people don&#039;t really feel they deserve to go to hell for their sins.  They feel that &lt;em&gt;other&lt;/em&gt; people might deserve it --you know, the ones that do the sins &lt;em&gt;they&lt;/em&gt; don&#039;t do -- but they really don&#039;t think they&#039;re doing anything bad enough that God won&#039;t just overlook it.

Either we are saved by faith or we are saved by faith + living a minimally good life.  Those are two &lt;em&gt;different&lt;/em&gt; plans of salvation and only one is taught in the bible.  We are called to good works.  We are called to walk in the Spirit.  But we aren&#039;t required to DO anything to be born again.  The only prerequisite to salvation is putting all of our hope and faith in Jesus Christ.  If murder is a disqualifier, we are putting some of our faith in our our ability to not commit the sin of murder.  If robbery is a disqualifier, we are putting some of our faith in our own ability not to rob another.  In other words, if you believe you have some good works you MUST do to be saved, your faith in yourself and your own good life.  That&#039;s a belief you must repent of and call on the name of the Lord for salvation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depends what you mean by &#8220;okay.&#8221;  No, it&#8217;s not okay with God if we disobey His commandments.  God will chastise His children;  the bible is full of examples:  Saul, David, and Job come to mind.  </p>
<p>But if by &#8220;okay&#8221; you mean that a born again believer who robs, cheats and murders will still be saved, then the answer is yes.  <strong>We are not saved by our own merit.</strong>  I&#8217;m not sure why this is so hard for people to understand.  People <em>constantly</em> talk about the believer who lies, cheats and murders, but never about the believer who lusts, covets or is lazy at work.  Why?  Because deep down most people don&#8217;t really feel they deserve to go to hell for their sins.  They feel that <em>other</em> people might deserve it &#8211;you know, the ones that do the sins <em>they</em> don&#8217;t do &#8212; but they really don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re doing anything bad enough that God won&#8217;t just overlook it.</p>
<p>Either we are saved by faith or we are saved by faith + living a minimally good life.  Those are two <em>different</em> plans of salvation and only one is taught in the bible.  We are called to good works.  We are called to walk in the Spirit.  But we aren&#8217;t required to DO anything to be born again.  The only prerequisite to salvation is putting all of our hope and faith in Jesus Christ.  If murder is a disqualifier, we are putting some of our faith in our our ability to not commit the sin of murder.  If robbery is a disqualifier, we are putting some of our faith in our own ability not to rob another.  In other words, if you believe you have some good works you MUST do to be saved, your faith in yourself and your own good life.  That&#8217;s a belief you must repent of and call on the name of the Lord for salvation.</p>
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